User talk:Alex Cameron

Soldierside

I completely fail to see your rationale for your recent edits to Talk:Soldierside. It's not his userpage, it's his author page, and putting random phrases in there is just going to confuse visitors. 71.231.56.40 15:55, 8 August 2007 (PDT)

>16:39, 8 August 2007 (PDT)Alex Cameron<

Young man, I am looking at his author page right now. I'll explain each line.

Line 1: "Soldierside is a animutator that is not very well liked on the Animutation Portal forums, due to his insulting behavior towards other users and general trollish behavior." -- This is very straight forward. It says that he is not liked very much because, plainly put, he is being a jerk to people.

Line 2: "His animutations get mixed fealings." -- This line simply states, that while people don't necessarily like the man himself, his "animutations" are not hated as much. This is a completely neutral statement, that is not even critisizing or complementiong his "animutations," but are clearly stating that the oppinion of his works by others have not been hindered or imporoved by the actions of the "animutation's" origional creator, Soldierside.

Simple enough. --User:Alex_Cameron 8/8/2007 6:44 PM (CDT)

Pfft. That wasn't what I was referring to. He doesn't have the right to add gibberish to his page, yet you made an official-looking notice saying that he can add whatever he wants. That's wrong. 71.231.56.40 17:15, 8 August 2007 (PDT)

Corm

Well, I wouldn't be objecting to all this mammer-jammer BS, if the template would stop auto-erasing stuff.

"Error: invalid time" >:( --User:Alex_Cameron 6/3/2007 9:28 PM (CDT)

• The template doesn't auto-erase anything - in the case of Release Date, it simply enforces correct input and throws an error if you specify something that isn't a date (considering it then tries to parse the date to extract the year so it can categorize the animutation by the year in which it was released). Are you trying to say that's a bad thing? --Quietust 19:58, 3 June 2007 (PDT)

I'm trying to say that I would like to be more specific. I do have the time (as in a clock) when they were released, but whatevuh. --User:Alex_Cameron 6/5/2007 10:25 PM (CDT)

• Hours and minutes are largely irrelevant for animutation release dates, unless you're releasing more than one per day, and in those cases, you can just indicate the clock time in the About section or something.
  On a side note, I think you could use a minor attitude readjustment - all you seem to do is criticize my efforts to make this wiki easier for general users to view and for editors to modify. I've put a lot of effort into cleaning up this site and acknowledge that it is largely a thankless job (much like being a network admin, the good things go unnoticed while the bad things draw attention), but I really don't think I deserve these sort of contemptuous remarks. --Quietust 14:05, 6 June 2007 (PDT)

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Colors

I would suggest giving up your crusade against having differently colored bars in the Animutation Infobox, especially since, now that the infoboxes are generated using a template, it is not possible to override them on a single page without editing the template itself (which will become impossible once I get the template edit-protected due to its widespread usage and the lag generated every time it gets modified). This is not your private website, but a public wiki, and public sites need to adhere to some level of standards and consistency in order to be properly usable; though one might argue that the wiki isn't particularly usable in its current state, the {{animutation infobox}} template is just one of several steps in the direction of improving it. --Quietust 12:46, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

Response to "Colors"

______I did not spend all that time in flash, pouring my very heart and soul into this audiovisual medium, to have them shamelessly thrown into this conformist nightmare that is the template. I believe it is the right of an individual, to edit the wiki in such a manner to make it more smooth flowing, and, in a sense, more aesthetically appealing. That is a right that I hold dear. The “new” wiki template that the Animutation Wiki has initiated into each and every animutation page does not fit the current, and ever growing needs associated with my particular editing style, and the specific content of mine featured in the aforementioned template. I think that the template you initiated is good, but I think that my animutation wiki pages deserve something “different.” The revised and edited template that is underway offers a greater amount of flexibility compared to the auto generated template that you are in the process of improving and applying to the wiki. It offers a slightly larger image thumbnail as compared to the template. Also, the black background with the colored text ensured that the thumbnails looks more “bordered” instead of just floating in a sea of white. My “crusade” as you call it is merely a spur of creativeness that, in effect, could add a flare of style to a much needed page. It could even correspond to the animutation. For example, I recently stumbled upon an animutation that I have yet to add to the wiki (Due to all the work on the EG template) which has a very dark theme to it. The main colors in the animutation are a dark shade of Green, Purple, and Blue. The template of the wiki could correspond to that. The bars could be dark shades of the three colors. A color for each bar. This template is a minor change to the bland yellow that is the auto-template.

______Secondly, I would like to get this off my chest. I may boast about the pristine quality of Wild Wild West, or boast about how the superior choreography of Epilepsy Get blows all the other pathetic excuses for Windows Movie Maker animutations out of the water. But in all realism, I know that absolutely nobody knows about the two, or could really care less about them. That is why I do not understand the fuss about the whole colored template ordeal. Just ask yourself right now: “How many people are actually going to visit the pages for Wild Wild West and Epilepsy Get?” Seriously, ask that to yourself. Now I know that I am not Neil C., Andrew K., or Drunkmagikoopa. I do not have people constantly looking around my pages revising, and editing them. My pages are never visited. I have no fans in this particular medium of communication. I am a nobody on the internet. Therefore, only I will probably be the only one seeing my pages. That is why I do not understand your push to add conformity to two wiki pages that are rarely visited. Your motivation is beyond my grasp of reasoning. Compare the two templates side by side. They are not that different. When mine is done, you will see that you are making a big fuss over nothing. Mine is merely more colorful.

______In conclusion, I will state this bluntly; I made the animutations. I took time out of my busy schedule to make these, could I at least have some recognition. You can make the wiki pages of your animutations look the way you want them to, and I will make the pages of mine look the way I think the pages should look. It is all I ask. Just a little freedom from the chains of yellow oppression that is the template. --User:Alex_Cameron 6/1/2007 9:00 PM (CDT)

• What we're aiming for is a page that gives us information about animutation, not a spur of creativeness. We don't want to confuse people on why the colors are different. --71.231.56.40 19:55, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
• If you really don't like the color yellow, then it's certainly possible to switch all of the animutation pages to use a different color. They don't have to be yellow, but for consistency, they do need to be the same color. Also, if you want to be creative, then be creative in your animutations - as (unregistered user from 71.231.56.40) said, the wiki pages themselves do not exist to be creative, but to present information to people in a consistent manner. --Quietust 12:00, 2 June 2007 (PDT)

Calm down

• "WELL THEN I GUESS WE DON'T NEED THIS, NOW DO WE?"
• "WELL I GUESS WE DON'T NEED THIS ANYMORE"

Perhaps you're taking this wiki and my standardization efforts a little too seriously; there's no need to 'YELL IN ALL CAPS' in your edit summaries just because I updatesd about 150 animutation pages and left empty sections at the bottom of them - I was considering whether or not the empty sections should stay there in case somebody comes along and has something to add to them (if not, I'll just run through all of the pages and remove the empty sections from the bottom). --Quietust 13:54, 6 June 2007 (PDT)

Silly Stuff

Please do not add silly fun facts and character descriptions to pages, like you did with Jammer Yama and C is for Cookie. The wiki has to have some degree of respectability. Plus, people could be offended by the usage of the word "broad" as "woman". 71.231.56.40 14:08, 20 June 2007 (PDT)

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa... pull that funky blame train out of Accusation Station, son.

First of all, in "C is for Cookie," the song clearly states, "A Donut also looks like the letter "C," but it is not as good as a cookie!" this is a fact. A, how do you say, interesting fact.

Second of all, that "broad" comment was Way Old. That was all the way back in December of 2006! That perticular written statement was edited out quite quickly when User:Penguin (magician) overhauled the page for his editing convenience. As Timon once said, "stop living in the past!" --User:Alex_Cameron 6/28/2007 3:12 PM (CDT)

Okay, I'm sorry about accusing you for past offenses. But that wasn't what the Trivia section was made for. It was made for facts that most people may not pick up on the first viewing. What the lyrics of C is for Cookie are, most people can pick up on the first viewing. I rest half of my case. 71.231.56.40 14:28, 28 June 2007 (PDT)